Note: This special episode is presented principally in the Russian language. This week Nina and Corinna talk with Corinna’s old friend, Jayson Graham. We talk about the process of marketing creative works, the role copyright may (or may not) play in establishing one’s marketability, and whether or not social media might be destroying America.
The M. Jayson Graham Show https://anchor.fm/m-jayson-graham-show/
Corinna and Nina enjoy a delightful conversation with stunning and brave intelligent and funny transsexual Miranda Yardley, author of such memorable bons mots as, “lighten up trannies, this used to be fun” and “a quick note on pronouns: I don’t give a shit.” While Miranda and Corinna recall alarming changes in the trans community over recent decades, Nina sadistically oppresses both of them with her cis privilege. Joking aside, Miranda has been the target of some extreme bullshit, online and more importantly in the English legal system, and shares some war stories here.
Miranda’s blog: https://mirandayardley.com/en/
Nina’s 1997 appearance (as “Grace,”with the Church of Euthenasia) on Jerry Springer: https://vimeo.com/409243819
Nina discusses how she manages rage with the heat of a thousand suns triggered by Internet bullshit she shouldn’t care that much about. Corinna confesses to some high-running emotions after an encounter with other bullshit on the new app Clubhouse. At 27:35 Nina mis-sexes a male who is definitely not a pedophile, and at 32:00 she goes on an important rant against coerced pronouns. Finally, she declares a new identity as a CERC (pronounced “curse”).
Graham Linehan’s substack: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/
Nina’s argument tweets: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/A5jcIonm22fqw6apVo
Get ready for some hardcore Libertarian nerd-talk, as Corinna goes head-to-head with Stephan Kinsella, author of Against Intellectual Property, and Libertarianism’s foremost critic of copyright and patents. Thrill to dazzling theories of labor vs. action, restrictive covenants, negative easements, burdened estates, nuisances, limitations, consent, redistribution of rights, triangular intervention, property, scarcity, value, allocation of contestable resources, conflict, trade secrets, the Patent Bargain, disclosure, distortion, abolishing the FDA…wait, what? By the end of the episode, Corinna suffers a long-overdue crisis of faith. SUCCESS!
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Corinna and Nina discover what happens when they interview someone more articulate than either of them: MK Fain, the youthful Doyenne of feminist social media. She is the founder of Spinster.xyz, co-founder of Ovarit, publisher of 4w.pub, and co-host of the Identity Crisis podcast. We touch on free speech and pornography, and its upcoming technology frontier. As the discussion goes into intellectual property, MK corrects Corinna’s misconceptions of who really benefits from copyrights.
Find MK on Spinster: https://spinster.xyz/@mk
Copyright is Brain Damage by Pina Naley: https://youtu.be/XO9FKQAxWZc
Heterodorx welcomes its first guest, serial social network creator Alex Gleason. Alex created Soapbox.FE, the software running feminist social media platform spinster.xyz and Nina’s own neenster.org, among others. His next project, Tribes, aims to make it easy and painless for anyone to start their own fediverse server by pushing a few buttons. The Dorx cover technology, the sociology of social networks, and adamantly avoid talking about the weather. You can find Alex at his fediverse server, gleasonator.com.
What’s the difference between “community standards” and censorship? How do we determine what books to include and exclude from libraries? Why does the Dr. Seuss estate get to decide what Dr. Seuss books stay in print? Is copyright censorship, as Nina asserts? What’s the difference between plagiarism and copyright violation? In an uncharacteristically focused and coherent conversation, Nina and Corinna discuss these questions and more. Then, Jesse and Katie chip in with some ideas on how to close each episode.
The Surprising History of Copyright and The Promise of a Post-Copyright World by Karl Fogel: https://questioncopyright.org/promise
The Internet Archive vs the Authors Guild: https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20200330/18125844202/publishers-authors-misguided-freakout-over-internet-archives-decision-to-enable-more-digital-book-checkouts-during-pandemic.shtml
For 30 Years, I’ve Tried to Become a Woman. Here’s What I Learned Along the Way by Nina Paley: https://quillette.com/2020/06/22/for-30-years-ive-tried-to-become-a-woman-heres-what-i-learned-along-the-way/
Copyright is Brain Damage, a 2015 talk by Nina: https://youtu.be/XO9FKQAxWZc
Nina considers the history of creepy fetishists in comics, leading to a discussion about “perverts” and attempts to normalize them to children. Then Nina blathers about Eunuchs for a while. Suddenly, Corinna takes the conversation in a different direction by declaring the Gender Critical Movement over. This gradually leads to a scrappy argument filled with tension and suspense! Who wins? Listen and find out!
Women’s Human Rights Campaign: https://www.womensdeclaration.com/en/about/
Save Women’s Sports: https://savewomenssports.com/
Nina gets a GitHub account, and the first thing she worries about is whether a mob will cancel her there. Corinna debates coming out as non-binary. Is “human” a gender, or still a species? After some discussion, we agree that all identities, tribal affiliations, cult memberships, and personality disorders are valid, so please don’t cancel us.
Nina’s new art/software project: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2021/02/17/mystic-symbolic-the-developening/
Trans-identified female Scott Newgent, who just released an important (dare we say heroic) article in Newsweek, is praised by Nina on feminist social media site Spinster.xyz, only to be met with harsh criticism from radical feminists who argue trans gender critics must detransition to be taken seriously. TERF-war inside baseball continues as Corinna brings up the Biden Administration’s endorsement of boys in girls’ sports. Corinna suggests drawing a Rural/City axis into Intersectionality, to which Nina responds cynically. Nina is in fact unusually cynical and sarcastic throughout, perhaps because she’s being cancelled by yet another cultural institution, again.
Scott Newgent’s Newsweek article: https://www.newsweek.com/we-need-balance-when-it-comes-gender-dysphoric-kids-i-would-know-opinion-1567277
Nina’s Spinster discussion: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/A46xiOMs4d8Ur7maJ6
Newsweek article on Biden’s exec order/boys in girl’s sports/trans rights are human rights pr: https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-does-bidens-executive-order-allow-transgender-athletes-compete-gender-their-1563790
Original Atlantic piece that evolved into the Coddling of the American Mind https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/