Episode 52: Calm and Wreasonable Colin Wright

Evolutionary biologist and gender-critical free speech advocate Colin Wright tries to throw the Dorx a bone by introducing himself with bun/buns/bunself pronouns, but remains indisputably a paragon of calm reason. Our conversation calmly and reasonably meanders through Wright’s early cancelation, academia, social contagions and cycles of silence, saving women’s sports, whether social media is making us insane, and the resemblance of wokeism to creationism. Nina is lulled into such a calm state that she doesn’t even challenge Corinna and Colin when they question whether “Patriarchy” is a Thing. Is it possible to be TOO calm and reasonable? Listen in and find out!

Wright’s Substack, Reality’s Last Stand: https://www.realityslaststand.com/

Wright’s cancelation story on Quillette: https://quillette.com/2020/07/30/think-cancel-culture-doesnt-exist-my-own-lived-experience-says-otherwise/

FAIR (Foundation Against Intolerance & Racism): https://www.fairforall.org/

Wright’s Twitter: https://mobile.twitter.com/SwipeWright/

Genderism descends on Nina’s local bike club: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/

Episode 51: Potty Mouths

While some Radical Feminists consider bathrooms (aka toilets) a distraction from more salient and enforceable realms of prisons, shelters, sports, and therapeutic settings, for others they represent the front lines of women’s boundaries in public space. Nina and Corinna have an honest, long-postponed, and undoubtedly controversial discussion about the reality of who uses which toilets, when, and why. But first, they discuss how the TERF-Tranny Alliance is accelerating the Apocalypse, the history of the term “gender critical,” and the difference between “pet trans” and actual pets. This episode is sure to piss off just about everyone!
 
Genspect Detransition webinar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnvZvqwIR7o
Does Sex Matter? 2019 panel discussion at the Urbana Free Library, featuring Corinna Cohn, Carey Callahan, and Nina Paley. Talk: https://youtu.be/RguD61siLB8
Q & A: https://vimeo.com/326585294

Episode 50: Cynthia Breheny Literally Erases by Drawing

The Dorx chat with Cynthia Breheny, a sexist, racist, and transphobic artist who perverts free speech and art as a means to hurt people. OR DOES SHE?? Perhaps she’s a sweet, young, unusually moderate illustrator with her own interesting history of gender dysphoria and heterodox gender-diverse friends. Nina, as Elder Artist and TERF, imparts her aged wisdom upon the young’un, while Corinna is unafraid to face accusations of “erasing” kinky toddlers. Is there hope for the future? Maybe!

Cynthia Breheny of Twitter: https://twitter.com/PTElephant

Website: https://www.ptelephant.com/

It’s impossible to capture the beauty of the Dorx, but Breheny tried.

Episode 49: MK Fain Wants to Keep Fighting

Corinna and Nina welcome back MK Fain, creator of women’s social network Spinster.xyz and online feminist news publication 4w.pub. Life has dished out some tough lessons in the intervening 10 months, and Fain is a fast learner. She shares newfound wisdom about having a life outside “the Movement,” purity spirals, Truth mills, scapegoating, infighting, fracturing, and cults. After resolving not to join anything in 2022, Fain becomes the newest member of the TERF-Tranny Alliance, and Nina looks forward to Death. Then the Dorx get philosophical about the difference between oppressors and leaders, the nature of human hierarchies, telling the truth as well as questioning it, writer’s block, and spaying and neutering our pets — and ourselves. Somehow all this inspires Fain to continue her fight for justice; maybe she’ll inspire you too.

Episode 48: Bully-Proofing the Grown-ups with Stella O’Malley

After Nina goes on about copyright abolition again, our delightful guest discusses her new book, Bully-Proof Kids (© Stella O’Malley 2022). All the adults in this conversation have been – and are currently being – bullied by other adults; will techniques for kids and families work for us too? The power to make or break bullies is in the hands of bystanders, whom O’Malley urges to become upstanders. Nina and Corinna are cynical as ever, and at one point sound like mental patients arguing with their therapist. Did we mention O’Malley is a therapist? She’s got her work cut out for her, in this episode and beyond!

Episode 47: Tokens of the Apocalypse

Corinna surprises Nina with a spontaneous “Fresh Air”-style interview about Apocalypse Animated, her just-completed animated eBook project. They discuss hairy Semites, the Whore of Babylon, vaginal symbolism of the New Jerusalem, depicting fire, tesseracts, a cute Lamb, galloping horses, and Corinna’s new career as an activist. Corinna has now testified twice in favor of Indiana House Bill 1041, which seeks to prohibit boys from girls’ school athletics teams. Does Corinna’s voice carry more authority as a transsexual? Unfortunately yes, because even though we all know tokenism is unfair and wrong, it is the coin of the identity politics realm.

Indiana House Bill 1041: http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2022/bills/house/1041

Corinna’s first testimony: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CZDobmmiNlg

Apocalypse Animated: https://apocalypseanimated.com/

Muybridge horse quilt: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2015/04/29/horse-quiltimation/

Theo’s Entrepreneurial Research & Fabrication Space: https://www.palegraylabs.com/

NO TERFS: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/AGR6XS3UEkgHtJ2VbE

Episode 46: True Faith with Aaron Rabinowitz

Aaron Rabinowitz identifies as an atheist, skeptic, and philosopher. He’s also a faithful trans ally, and considers the adjective “religious” an insult. Acutely aware of his cisheteronormative privilege, he willingly sacrifices himself on the altar of Heterodorx because “my humanity is not being questioned in this particular debate.” The resultant conversation is even more fascinating than it is long (1:46, our longest yet!). Listen closely and you just might have a religious experience.

Embrace the Void podcast: https://voidpod.com/podcasts

Philosophers in Space podcast: https://0gphilosophy.libsyn.com/

Aaron Rabinowitz at The Skeptic: https://www.skeptic.org.uk/author/aaronrabinowitz/

I Enjoy Being a Girl: https://youtu.be/iEW_nXwWvd4

Episode 45: Cancel Klatch with Razib Khan

Razib Khan is a Bangladeshi-American writer in population genetics and consumer genomics (wikipedia). He identifies as a Coconut, and is a repeat member of Club Cancel, getting denounced by friends and associates approximately every 6 months. He and the Dorx start the episode by erasing as many ethnicities, religions, and genders as they can. Then Khan recounts the sorry tale of Scientific American (a science fiction magazine) and late great biologist E.O. Wilson. Our smart and funny guest is all bravado and self-confidence until Nina asks him to define “woman,” the question that brings even the toughest intellectuals to their knees.

 

Setting the record straight: open letter on E.O. Wilson’s legacy: https://razib.substack.com/p/setting-the-record-straight-open

Episode 44: Upperhand Mars and Team TERF’s Moving Goalposts

Trans YouTuber, media manager of Gender Dysphoria Alliance, and eminent voice of reason Mars F has long been a target of more extreme trans rights activists; now Mars is also receiving abuse from “the other side.” “Transmen are our sisters” is an old TERF saying, but some aren’t acting very sisterly today. Mars also shares some cringey transition delusions from more naive times; a personal account of testosterone’s health consequences; and the secret of looking young (“don’t stay up late and don’t do crack”). Relax and enjoy the soothing sound of reasonable people talking reasonably.

Mars’s Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK792gI7-zEik0tB1Ok0l6Q

Mars on Twitter: https://twitter.com/UpperhandMars

Gender Dysphoria Alliance: https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/

Episode 43: Carole Hooven

The Dorx enjoy a lively and information-packed conversation with Dr. Carole Hooven, author of T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us. Curious and compassionate, she expresses grief that Corinna never got a chance to fuck his brains out with other boys. Nina is full of questions: can females have Complete Androgen Insensitivity? What happens to ovaries in menopause? How do you define woman? Hooven wants to know what made Nina “peak trans,” so Nina briefly recounts her TERFening in 2017-2018. Corinna, who needs to eat more carbs and put on some body fat because endogenous sex steroid production relies on cholesterol, shares some thoughts on non-binary identities, after which the conversation culminates in how awesome Heterodorx is. This episode is guaranteed to make you smarter!

Carole Hooven’s web site: http://www.carolehooven.com/ 

Carole Hooven on Twitter:  https://twitter.com/hoovlet/ 

Carole Hooven’s Testosterone Book: T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us.